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Feleti Teo in 2016
Feleti Teo

Glossary[edit]

  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality.

Nomination steps[edit]

  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually - a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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February 27[edit]


Mohammad Shtayyeh resignation[edit]

Article: Mohammad Shtayyeh (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Palestinian PM Mohammad Shtayyeh resigned along with the entire government in protest against the Gaza genocide. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, Reuters, FT, NY Times, Time
Credits:

Ainty Painty (talk) 03:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February 26[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections


RD: Ole Anderson[edit]

Article: Ole Anderson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Wrestling Observer - Figure Four Online, CBS Sports
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American pro wrestler and legendary member of The Four Horsemen. Article’s in better shape than most wrestlers but still needs work. The Kip 01:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Peter Peetah[edit]

Article: Peter "Peetah" Morgan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Pulse Ghana

Pitchfork
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Heatrave (talk) 15:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Opppose 3 CN tags in the first section, 4 of 5 other sections totally unsourced, and the fifth section mostly unsourced. JM (talk) 17:50, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And per DarkSide830, it's not a bio article either, which I somehow didnt notice, so it doesn't qualify; recommend close. JM (talk) 19:14, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. Not a biographical article. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • We allow such articles when the person is mostly described as part of a group. However in this case, I beg whether notability of the one member applies here (eg ITNRD doesn't apply) — Masem (t) 20:31, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      I mean, if there was a section about each member maybe I could be swayed, but Peetah Morgan is only mentioned specifically as being a member of the group in general, and in a one-sentence update saying he had died. That's not RD material either way. DarkSide830 (talk) 21:52, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose per Darkside: Not much information about Peetah. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:08, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose per Darkside and JM. There being only two sentences about Peetah Morgan means this is not a biographical article about him, meaning this is not RD. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:39, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Salah Larbès[edit]

Article: Salah Larbès (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Score, Algérie360
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Algerian footballer, needs expansion from French article. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 15:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oppose for now needs expansion, as the nominator says. JM (talk) 18:09, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Tep Vong[edit]

Article: Tep Vong (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://english.news.cn/20240226/d786acc99fb04a00bf84ce4c04898a31/c.html
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
  • Supreme Patriarch of Mahanikay Buddhism in Cambodia, informative article.
  • Oppose first two sections of biography are unsourced, honours section is unsourced. JM (talk) 18:11, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Jacob Rothschild[edit]

Article: Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lord-jacob-rothschild-dead-dies-b2502502.html
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Banker and Rothschild Family member. Article needs some work. Onegreatjoke (talk) 13:16, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Pankaj Udhas[edit]

Article: Pankaj Udhas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Noted Singer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:00, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) New Prime Minister of Tuvalu[edit]

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Article: 2024 Tuvaluan general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Following the 2024 Tuvaluan general election, Feleti Teo (pictured) is elected Prime Minister of Tuvalu. (Post)
News source(s): RNZ, Reuters, Al Jazeera
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Elected unopposed by parliament, which is the first time this has happened in Tuvaluan history. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 09:18, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The target article should be the election page not the prime minister-elect which I have fixed already (correct me if I am wrong). Support as article is well-cited and I don't see glaring issues...could someone with more experience with the MOS figure out the chain of citations present in the election article. Pksois23 (talk) 13:15, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment Unsure of the sourcing for the results table. The Feleti Teo article is fine, the PM article is undersourced. JM (talk) 17:37, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Late oppose Article is boring and poorly written overall Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 01:31, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    “Boring” isn’t a valid reason to oppose, but care to elaborate on the other point? The Kip 01:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Stinks of promotional language, has too much passive voice, and at least two glaring typos. Doesn't really matter at this point. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 01:53, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Aaron Bushnell[edit]

Article: Self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  An American airman protesting the Israel–Hamas war self-immolated in front of the Israeli embassy to the United States in Washington, D.C. (Post)
News source(s): i24NEWS
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Incredibly disturbing and distressing death, but 100% newsworthy and notable. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 10:06, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Wait until his death is confirmed. If/when it is, the article looks ready to go. Moncoposig (talk) 13:07, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support in principle as I think on this own this does not qualify as an RD. This would need to be posted as a blurb as if it were a non-RD news event as the decedent did not have their own article prior to their death. But that being the case, this is still a timely event of high encyclopedic interest, drawing attention to the impacts of this conflict beyond just the war itself. Duly signed, WaltClipper -(talk) 13:16, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait Death is not yet confirmed, best wait until confirmation of death. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:26, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
BBC has just confirmed his death: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68405119 GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose for now Another police officer approached the scene, aiming a gun at Bushnell off-camera and ordered him to "get on the ground" multiple times is not the kind of claim we can leave without a source. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:01, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Fixed now. Support anything --Aaron Liu (talk) 16:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Since this seems like it's going to fail, I'm changing to strong support, per my comment to JM below. Aaron Liu (talk) 00:04, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose as RD agreeing that since Bushnell was not a notable person with his own article prior to his death. I would oppose this as its own blurb as well since the death is still unconfirmed (per the article) and there are cn tags mike_gigs talkcontribs 14:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I don't think being notable in life is actually a requirement. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    To be fair, WP:ITNRD has no requirements whatsoever, it operates as a loose guideline of "may's" and "should's" and "possibly's", but the relevant section is An individual human, animal or other biological organism that has recently died may have an entry in the recent deaths (RD) section if it has a biographical Wikipedia article. The current consensus interpreting this guideline is that if the article is not just the subject's name but rather the name and event ("self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell"), then it is not a biographical article/biography of a living person. Under the current policy, if the article were named just "Aaron Bushnell", it would violate WP:BLP1E as the subject is only notable for this one event. Duly signed, WaltClipper -(talk) 15:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I can't find the consensus discussion. Would you kindly link it? Aaron Liu (talk) 22:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I don't know of any consensus discussions, but I always read biographical Wikipedia article as meaning an article about a person and not an event, and the last two times that an event article was nominated, it failed on the basis that it was not about a person (the death of a Taylor Swift fan at a concert, and the execution of a man using inert gas). JM (talk) 23:23, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    IMO it depends on how much biography. This well-written article clearly wouldn't be blurb-worthy and has a substantial section for biography, so I say it wouldn't hurt to just post his name under RD, especially since, unlike the two articles you mention, the identity of the subject is actually important. We shouldn't oppose this just because generally such articles are notable because of something other than the identity of the victim. Plus, a lot of people are probably looking for the article about it (V22 search apparently hasn't indexed it yet), so this satisfies all of ITN-purpose IMO. Aaron Liu (talk) 00:01, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Death has been confirmed, support. nableezy - 14:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    And I added a blurb to the nom, given the wide international coverage I think this merits inclusion. See for example, and each of these is taken from the front page of each source, NYT, BBC, Times of Israel, Le Figaro (French), Al Jazeera (Arabic). nableezy - 16:29, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose RD WP:ITNRD specifically says that if the article is a "biographical" article, then it is RD. The listed article only has a very short background section outside of the death (for example, it doesn't say when he was born), meaning I don't think the current form of the article is RD. In addition, there are two cn's. If this gets nominated for a blurb, I will reconsider notability there. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:21, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Ive add a blurb to the nomination. nableezy - 16:05, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thank you for expanding the article. I'm not sure if this reaches notability requirements for a blurb, although if it inspires wide-spread protests or significant changes in the US then I would support doing so. As the nominator I vote Wait on a blurb, but I still support a RD as I don't see any restriction against pages created for notable or exemplary deaths. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 19:45, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    WP:ITNRD says the subject needs a biographical Wikipedia article, and this article, being about a death, is an event article. The last two times an event article was nominated, the nomination failed for that reason (Execution of Kenneth Eugene Smith and Death of Ana Clara Benevides). JM (talk) 23:26, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Conditional support for blurb I will support on notability provided one of the following happens: the event causes protests or other such events to occur; or if this is the first ever self-immolation of an active-duty US service member. The second point was previously an unsourced claim in the lead of the article, which has since been removed. If protests occur, we should mention them in the blurb, and if this is the first self-immolation of an active duty US service member, we should also mention that in the blurb. Gödel2200 (talk) 18:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose RD per WP:ITNRD and oppose blurb on notability. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:06, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose blurb on significance. Oppose RD because the individual is not notable. Jehochman Talk 17:00, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose RD because this is not a bio article so doesn't qualify. JM (talk) 17:41, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also oppose blurb on significance. JM (talk) 19:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support blurb per WaltCip. Oppose RD due to notability issues. Davest3r08 >:) (talk) 18:07, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nominator Comment I decided to open Template:Did you know nominations/Self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell instead as I'm not sure if it would fit a blurb, and it seems like most are opposed to a RD on prior precedent. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 21:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That’s probably a good solution given the issues here; the current hook is adequate but Godel’s notes on significance may make for solid alt-hooks. The Kip 01:47, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose both per JM. And I'd classify it as already in the scope of ongoing. Jiaminglimjm (talk) 23:01, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blurb It may be only my ideology--but we shouldn't have to wait for material results (as in protests) to declare if something is notable enough for ITN. Our duty is to post the most significant of news events into the ITN section. This clearly fits that shoe. DecrepitlyOnward (talk) 02:05, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on notability, for two reasons:
    1. Merely that an otherwise non-notable man publicly killed himself for political reasons and has joined the list of political self-immolations is not sufficiently significant for posting at ITN. This is not the first political self-immolation of a current or former U.S. military member in recent memory (one occurred in 2016 in protest of the VA), nor is it the first self-immolation in protest of military policy to have occurred in recent memory (one occurred in 2014 after Japan began to adopt a more aggressive military posture), nor is the first to have occurred in recent memory in a protest relating to human rights (this sort of thing has been frequent in Tibet; see Self-immolation protests by Tibetans in China for more information on the >100 such cases since 2009).
      Self-immolations catch headlines, but in the grand scheme they don't tend to be that significant. This self-immolation is getting attention because it relates to the war in Gaza, but if this reason alone is why this is getting a nom then is already covered under ongoing. Additionally, we have kept much more significant things (such as the sentencing of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny to the penal camp where he would later die) off of ITN, and I don't see why this act of suicide would be so significant as to merit inclusion here.
    2. This does not meet WP:ITNRD; the article is not a biography, but an article on an event.
Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:01, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose RD - this can't be in RD, he has no standalone article and had no article at all before the event. I also oppose on notability. We've never blurbed other self-immolation incidents, why this one? --RockstoneSend me a message! 03:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    How many do you think there are? And in hindsight Mohamed Bouazizi 100000% should have been blurbed. nableezy - 03:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support as blurb, oppose as RD per WP:ITNRD. Death has been confirmed and the incident is receiving international coverage; additionally, I don't find arguments of "this other incident/event wasn't blurbed, so therefore this incident/event shouldn't be blurbed" convincing. —Matthew  / (talk) 03:59, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Maryam Nawaz[edit]

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Article: Maryam Nawaz (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Maryam Nawaz makes history as Pakistan's first female Chief Minister of any province. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Maryam Nawaz becomes the first woman to be elected Chief Minister of any province in Pakistan.
Alternative blurb II: Maryam Nawaz is elected Chief Minister of Punjab, the first female in any province of Pakistan.
News source(s): Deccan Herald, The News International, NDTV
Credits:

Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 11:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Weak Support BLP is well sourced, updated and ready. As the first woman to hold this position in the country's history is indeed significant. IMO, she, as CM, may have more power and influence than the Prime Minister this time but I'm not really sure if this ITN worthy hence weak support. --Saqib (talk) 11:58, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I also believe that her governance of the country's most populous province (having population of 130 million people), will remain under intense scrutiny, comparable to that of the PM. --Saqib (talk) 12:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Neutral, willing to be convinced - I'm not uniformly against publishing internal political stories. This does feel a bit similar to the First Minister of Northern Ireland case which prompted so much debate recently. But I would like to understand the reasoning better before making a firm !vote. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:30, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    There are two reasons for this. Firstly, she is the inaugural female to assume the position of CM in any province of Pakistan. Secondly, as Saqib mentioned earlier, she may amass greater influence in Pakistani politics over the next five years than the Prime Minister. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 12:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To the first, this would be more remarkable if there had not already been a female prime minister of Pakistan. To the second, what she may do in the future is irrelevant, per WP:CRYSTAL. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:34, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose As GenevieveDEon pointed out, there has already been a female Prime Minister of Pakistan (Benazir Bhutto, who served twice). With this in mind, I do not believe this election is notable enough in and of itself. I would only reconsider if it brings about a very significant shift in policy. That being said, the article for Maryam Nawaz does not indicate the election brought about a large change in policy, so I will oppose unless this is changed. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on notability. The article is good, but this is relates to a nation's internal politics, as important as the Punjab province is. I may reconsider if this ends up being of international or large internal significance. Moncoposig (talk) 17:19, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose on significance. There was already a female PM of Pakistan, a CM is a lower level than a PM in Pakistan. JM (talk) 17:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose as it’s not quite as significant when the country as a whole already had a female PM. The Kip 19:18, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose per Godel2200. We've seen three Muslim women heads of government across the globe (Haseena, Zia in BD and Bhutto in PK), this is really not internationally significant. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 01:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. Benazir Bhutto was PM in Pakistan for about five years in the 1990s, and was the first woman elected to lead Pakistan. Nawaz's achievement is significant for her political career, and for women in Punjab, but I don't see this as novel inasmuch as the PM is a much more senior position. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:13, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February 25[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


(Closed) Liverpool Win EFL Cup[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


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Article: 2023–24 EFL Cup (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Virgil Van Dijk scores 118th minute goal to win Liverpool F.C the 2023–24 EFL Cup against Chelsea F.C (Post)
News source(s): SKY Sports
Credits:
Heatrave (talk) 16:51, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose, if we're being polite, this is the third biggest football honour in England. There's even a not insignificant point of view to abolish it, like France did with theirs. Good anyway for Liverpool and their fans, who have seen their team win much better trophies recently at any rate. Unknown Temptation (talk) 18:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Strong oppose. Minor domestic competition. We already post five club football events each year (see WP:ITNR#Football (association)), more than almost any other sport, and if even if we expanded that to the top 20 the League Cup wouldn't be among them. Modest Genius talk 18:48, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose, its the Energy Drink Cup so its not on WP:ITNSPORTS. That is all. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 18:50, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose The event is a domestic tournament, and is only a qualifying tournament for the UEFA Conference League. If this does get posted, the blurb needs to mention and link to the final match, as that is the only match which includes any sort of prose about the actual play. Gödel2200 (talk) 18:59, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose it’s a lower-level domestic cup, doesn’t quite meet ITN standards. The Kip 19:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Chris Nicholl[edit]

Article: Chris Nicholl (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Southern Daily Echo
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

English born footballer who played for Northern Ireland. Fats40boy11 (talk) 18:17, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support as article looks good and cited. Pksois23 (talk) 13:15, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Patrick Cormack[edit]

Article: Patrick Cormack (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Independent
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

RD: Zong Qinghou[edit]

Article: Zong Qinghou (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): South China Morning Post
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
  • Oppose for now There is one CN tag in the article. It should be suitable to post once the claim is either sourced or removed. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 22:15, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The citation has been fixed! Microplastic Consumer (talk) 01:31, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Micheline Presle[edit]

Article: Micheline Presle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Telegraph via Yahoo!, Deadline,Washington Post
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Working on getting the references into all those films. In process. Will take a few hours. 7&6=thirteen () 16:08, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment. I've added a lot of references, but finding more may be problematic. Even the Wikipedia articles on the films she appeared in (most of which are French) don't have much sourcing within them. So help would be appreciated. 7&6=thirteen () 21:51, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment I have added some citations from the BFI Collection Database. There are a lot of her filmography (133 hits). It is a little bit tedious bc I haven't found a way to get a link for all the actress filmography, just a results list from a script after clicking her name in one of her movies. Alexcalamaro (talk) 06:37, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Added a lot of citations. There are over 100 sources now. Should be GTG. 7&6=thirteen () 16:39, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alexcalamaro Your British Film Institute link gives 14 pages of credits, with approximately 9 or 10 films per page.
T[his is one page of 14.

1La DAME AUX CAMÉLIAS C.C.F.C. (Production company), Raymond Bernard (Director)

1953 (Release) - France - Italy - Film - Fiction -

Articles2Blind Date Independent Artists [Production] Limited (Production company), Joseph Losey (Director)

1959 (Copyright) - 1959-09-21 (Release) - United Kingdom - Film - Fiction -

Film / Video materialDigital Posters / DesignsDigital StillsScripts / Documents / EphemeraArticles3Les DERNIERS JOURS DE POMPEI Salvo D'angelo (Production company), Marcel L'Herbier (Director)

1948 (Release) - France - Italy - Film - Fiction -

ArticlesBooks4Le DIABLE AU CORPS Transcontinental Films (Production company), Claude Autant-Lara (Director)

1947 (Release) - France - Film - Fiction -

Film / Video materialDigital StillsScripts / Documents / EphemeraArticlesBooks5Le DIABLE ET LES DIX COMMANDEMENTS Mondex Films (Production company), Julien Duvivier (Director)

1962 (Release) - France - Italy - Film - Fiction -

Film / Video materialScripts / Documents / EphemeraArticles6L' ASSASSINO Titanus (Production company), Elio Petri (Director)

1961-04-01 (Release) - Italy - France - Film - Fiction -

Film / Video materialDigital StillsScripts / Documents / EphemeraArticlesBooks7Le BAL DU COMTE D'ORGEL Les Films Marceau (Production company), Marc Allégret (Director)

1970 (Release) - France - Film - Fiction -

Articles8Le BARON DE L'ÉCLUSE Filmsonor (Paris) (Production company), Jean Delannoy (Director)

1960 (Release) - France - Italy - Film - Fiction -

Articles9La CHASSE À L'HOMME Filmsonor (Paris) (Production company), Edouard Molinaro (Director)

1964 (Release) - France - Italy - Film - Fiction -

Articles10BEATRICE CENCI Franco London Film (Paris) (Production company), Riccardo Freda (Director)

1956 (Release) - Italy - Film - Fiction -

Articles 1

Alexcalamaro Thanks for finding that. I did use it as a cited source in the article. 7&6=thirteen () 21:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Updated. [1]

February 24[edit]

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  • In Tanzania, 25 people are killed and 21 more injured on a road linking Arusha to Namanga, after a truck driver lost control of his vehicle causing a collision with three other vehicles. (Barron's)

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RD: Kenneth Mitchell (actor)[edit]

Article: Kenneth Mitchell (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:
Article updated
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Canadian actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:115F:E0C1:FA0D:4EF5 (talk) 16:24, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Eric Mays[edit]

Article: Eric Mays (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): M-Live, Michigan Now
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
  • Oppose Death section is currently unsourced. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:10, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I've added the sources for the death from here to the article. I still oppose for now since the article still has an orange tag for cleanup. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:22, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose far too many uncited statements. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:27, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose as there aren’t enough sources and there is really only a controversy and death section, cleanup tag needs to be addressed Pksois23 (talk) 12:51, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Article is just controversies, and contains nothing about his early life, career outside of the city council, election(s) to the council, or personal life. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:49, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Not an actual biography as currently written. Also, his antics on the city council had made him a minor national celebrity. The M-Live source cited above touches on this, while the article as written fails to do so. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 03:36, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose A biography of a politician ought to tell us what party he represented (or if he was an independent), and what his political positions were. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Vyacheslav Lebedev[edit]

Article: Vyacheslav Lebedev (Chief Justice) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Meduza, Mediazona
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

RD: Stan Bowles[edit]

Article: Stan Bowles (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): QPR, BBC, Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

February 23[edit]

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International relations

Law and crime

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Science and technology


Germany legalizes cannabis use[edit]

Article: Cannabis in Germany (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Germany, the Bundestag legalizes recreational cannabis use. (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Article updated

JM (talk) 19:26, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Weak oppose While the first major country in Europe to legalize recreational use, it’s not the first overall - Luxembourg and Malta beat them to it. As such I’m not quite sure if it meets ITN standards as a result. The Kip 19:40, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Weak support on notability Germany is the third EU country and the second G7 country to legalize recreational use. Given that there have only been nine countries to legalize recreational use (according to our table), I think this is notable enough. That being said, we should either reword the blurb, or wait until 1 April 2024, as the legality doesn't take effect until 1 April 2024. Gödel2200 (talk) 19:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support on notability, definitely an unusual and notable event. Agree that it should be either reworded or (preferably) moved to 1 April, plus it's a good day to have "fun" topics like this in the news rather than things like wars and stuff. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support per Gödel. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose on notability. This would be the third country in Europe to legalize the use of recreational cannabis, and this particular public policy doesn't have broader implications for the world commmunity. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 02:30, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Golden Richards[edit]

Article: Golden Richards (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/golden-richards-former-cowboys-super-bowl-winning-receiver-dies-at-age-73/
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

1970's National Football League wide receiver. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 15:36, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Flaco[edit]

Article: Flaco (owl) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
  • Support Looks ready. RIP. Thriley (talk) 05:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support great article. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:37, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Strong support Significant death and article is great. Could even post in news. Pksois23 (talk) 08:23, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Everything is well sourced and article is good. Ready to go. Moncoposig (talk) 13:17, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Strong Oppose. It is a travesty that RD for a person with accomplishments will be replaced by owl.
Personally, I am opposed for RDs for animals or trees. I don't think it should be posted here. BilboBeggins (talk) 22:27, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
BilboBeggins, as with anything, you are welcome to raise the issue at the talk page. Curbon7 (talk) 02:44, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BilboBeggins: Notability is not treated as a factor in RD nominations, votes should be instead based on the article quality alone. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:22, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Shinsadong Tiger[edit]

Article: Shinsadong Tiger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Korean Hearld ABC News Variety NME
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: K-pop Producer and songwriter. Lightoil (talk) 19:10, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Comment there's a few "citation needed" tags that need addressing. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:11, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Abcmaxx I have addressed the tags by adding sources. Lightoil (talk) 19:41, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support Looks good now. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:11, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jack Biddle[edit]

Article: Jack Biddle (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yellowhammer News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Recently created article. Served 32 years in the Alabama Legislature. Kafoxe (talk) 19:02, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Manohar Joshi[edit]

Article: Manohar Joshi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Maharashtra Chief Minister and Lok Sabha Speaker. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 03:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose for now There are several unsourced claims in the article. They should be improved before posting. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:54, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose for now Article needs some work, but it looks almost ready otherwise. Moncoposig (talk) 16:06, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Added "citation needed" tags. Far too many unsourced statements. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:16, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February 22[edit]

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(Posted) RD: Edith Ceccarelli[edit]

Article: Edith Ceccarelli (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Oldest person in the United States. 240F:7A:6253:1:115F:E0C1:FA0D:4EF5 (talk) 16:24, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support Kinda short, but its sourced well and I don't imagine there's much more to add. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:48, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Posted. I added a couple of sentences. Word count now at 324, comfortably Start Class now. --PFHLai (talk) 00:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Jean-Guy Talbot[edit]

Article: Jean-Guy Talbot (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Canadian hockey player and coach. Article needs some citation work. The Kip 23:53, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose Playing career section completely uncited. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:23, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Jesse Baird[edit]

Article: Jesse Baird (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC Australia (1), BBC News, ABC Australia (2)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 09:55, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

you don't necessarily need a body to have a confirmed death, especially given the murder charge. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Roni Stoneman[edit]

Article: Roni Stoneman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

240D:1A:4B5:2800:9082:75E:4080:CB47 (talk) 05:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose, parts of the article are unsourced. Suonii180 (talk) 20:53, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • There are still multiple {cn} tags in this wikibio. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 04:11, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) Odysseus landing[edit]

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Article: Intuitive Machines Nova-C (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Intuitive Machines's lunar lander Odysseus lands on the Moon, the first commercial lunar landing and the first landing by the United States since Apollo 17 in 1972. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The unmanned Odysseus, by American company Intuitive Machines, lands on the Moon, the first commercial Moon landing.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The unmanned Odysseus, by American company Intuitive Machines, successfully completes the first commercial Moon landing.
Alternative blurb III: ​ The unmanned Odysseus completes the first commercial Moon landing.
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
  • Strong support Beat me to the punch. Anyways, first commercial lunar landing as well as the first United States lunar landing in over 50 years. Article still needs to be updates for the landing, however - the landing was confirmed only a few minutes ago. qw3rty 23:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support obviously an immense achievement This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support on notability In addition, the article seems to already be of sufficient quality to post. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support on notability (but wait) Article looks good enough, but there are a bunch of cite errors which need to be sorted out. I would also like to see how the event develops, but this deserves to go on the main page. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 00:17, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support but added alt1 as the part about "first US landing since..." implies that this is a formal US gov't landing. Better to ID the company behind it. Article appears good to go. --Masem (t) 01:17, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Major event, first US landing in 50+ years and first commercial landing. Article looks good to go. Agree with Masem over altblurb1, but reworded it for clarity in altblurb2Pksois23 (talk) 02:19, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Alt1 I believe alt1 is the clearest of the blurbs. The article also looks ready to go. Gödel2200 (talk) 02:20, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Alt1 Article looks ready to go. Alt 1 highlights the significance of the event more. Moncoposig (talk) 02:38, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Alt2 or Alt3 It looks like the article’s good enough. Alt2 & Alt3 have better wording than the other blurbs. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 04:58, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • @Admins willing to post ITN: is this ready? Natg 19 (talk) 08:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Posted alt2. Anarchyte (talk) 09:02, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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RD: John Savident[edit]

Article: John Savident (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

240F:7A:6253:1:B084:5D4:5A0:2C6D (talk) 07:44, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose due to two cn's and an unreferenced filmography section. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:21, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Pamela Salem[edit]

Article: Pamela Salem (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

British actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:4976:6327:DB15:65E5 (talk) 13:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support - article looks good Pksois23 (talk) 07:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose due to an unreferenced filmography section. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:24, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose The article needs a cleanup, it's almost just a big long incoherent list bundled into a paragraph. It's also missing a lot of citations. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:31, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Jayo Archer[edit]

Article: Jayo Archer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Death of a prominent motorcross rider who was also an X Games medalist. Abishe (talk) 15:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Article is well-sourced but somewhat lacks quality in prose. Pksois23 (talk) 02:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support as the article is fully sourced, and there are no more major prose issues. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:45, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • This new wikibio currently has only 250 words of prose. It's a little stubby. Anything else to write about this guy, please? A few sentences may push it more comfortably into start class. --PFHLai (talk) 12:03, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Hydeia Broadbent[edit]

Article: Hydeia Broadbent (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Appears to be well-sourced. Mooonswimmer 23:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Seems overall well-sourced, one unsourced statement about a book and a TV appearance. JM (talk) 03:02, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've added citations for these both facts. Seems ready to me (just a non-RS Wordpress citation for her sonority). Alexcalamaro (talk) 06:15, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Seniority? --Ouro (blah blah) 14:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorority. 57.140.16.1 (talk) 14:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for this. --Ouro (blah blah) 13:39, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support - now fully cited. Blythwood (talk) 07:46, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • There is currently an orange tag for the single-sentence intro being too short. Does anyone want to expand the intro? --PFHLai (talk) 03:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I've expanded it. I think it's ready to publish now. Blythwood (talk) 13:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ewen MacIntosh[edit]

Article: Ewen MacIntosh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

240D:1A:4B5:2800:CD0D:DA83:68EA:1330 (talk) 13:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Closed) 2024 Nuristan landslide[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: 2024 Nuristan landslide (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: A landslide killed at least 25 people in Afghanistan's Nuristan province. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, VOA, DW, AP, Washington Post
Credits:
Needs expansion. Ainty Painty (talk) 05:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Strong oppose: This bears no significance at all. Article is also a complete stub. Don't just nominate articles for ITN simply because it happened. Tofusaurus (talk) 05:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose - good faith nom! Unfortunately, the article is far from ready to be posted, as it is a stub, and while there is no minimum death requirement for posting disasters and accidents, the notability is also a bit questionable. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 08:08, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on quality The article is a stub. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:07, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose good faith nom We are not a local disaster report, and the article quality isn't there. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 09:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose its a stub Setarip (talk) 13:04, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment in addition to the above, given that Ainty Painty also created it, I would remind them about WP:NOT#NEWS and WP:NEVENT, and the fact that not all natural disasters are necessarily going to have long-term notability. We do have List of landslides where these can be documented but as that list shows, not every landslide has a standalone article. Creating a stubby news article on something that may not be easily expanded is discouraged. --Masem (t) 13:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose due to the article being a stub. I will also oppose on notability unless the event turns into something far bigger. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 13:41, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support on notability A large landslide with a high casualty rate is notable as evidenced by global coverage. Not all natural disasters are necessarily going to have long-term notability, but given we have multiple reliable global sources covering it this meets notability criteria. I would also like to point out there's nothing wrong in nominating at ITN in order to draw attention to an article needing expansion, especially when it's breaking news. Unfortunately, given its Afghanistan, a notoriously difficult part of the world to find consistent and reliable news for, this may be all we ever get so far; however this shouldn't lessen its notability. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:04, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    "there's nothing wrong in nominating at ITN in order to draw attention to an article needing expansion"
    I completely disagree, and I greatly dislike when it occurs. (Note that I'm not commenting on this specific nomination.) The point of nominating an article at ITN is to get an article listed on ITN. Kicking222 (talk) 18:20, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    One doesn't exclude the other. Most nominations need work before they are posted, especially recent deaths nominations; thus this is an ideal way to improve articles that otherwise would have been missed. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:36, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Please review NEVENTS. Specifically just because an event gets a burst of coverage in the short term doesn't make it sufficiently notable for WP. That's what Wikinews is for. We want enduring events, and a landslide with a relatively low death toll in a third world country/region just isn't going to get wide coverage. — Masem (t) 18:50, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I think the "third world country/region" part is unnecessary here, as we should work to give coverage to all regions of the world. It's just that this specific event doesn't rise to the threshold of ITN notability. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    We do want to cover events from all over the world, and we do have to watch for western biases, but there are events that are the equivalent of "if a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound?" The articles from international sources covering this are extremely short and almost are news-in-brief, compared to other disasters that I've seen from third-world countries that get far more coverage. We sometimes simply cannot support notability of a event if coverage is just lacking, and while we should strive to include such events when the coverage is there, we shouldn't stretch our practices to include them. Masem (t) 01:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I absolutely agree, in this kind of situation the coverage just isn't sufficient sometimes. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 01:43, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    An important thing that NEVENTS says However, this may be difficult or impossible to determine shortly after the event occurs, as editors cannot know whether an event will receive further coverage or not. That an event occurred recently does not in itself make it non-notable. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 20:43, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose on quality still a stub. JM (talk) 02:59, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on quality as a six-sentence stub. The Kip 07:10, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose While the event is notable, the article is a stub. Moncoposig (talk) 12:50, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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RD: Fali Sam Nariman[edit]

Article: Fali Sam Nariman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Noted Lawyer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose as there are still a few unsourced statements throughout the article. Please ping me once they are sourced. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 17:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose 6 unsourced paragraphs/isolated lines. JM (talk) 03:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Abdul Taib Mahmud[edit]

Article: Abdul Taib Mahmud (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1] [2]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Chief Minister and Yang Di-Pertua Negeri (Governor) of the Malaysian state of Sarawak. A prominent name in Sarawakian politics as he had formal and informal power over the state for over 40 years. Tofusaurus (talk) 01:20, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose for now There are two CNs in the Environmental Policy section. Once those are resolved, this can be posted to RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:13, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Section has been fixed. Tofusaurus (talk) 05:41, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support All prior sourcing issues appear to have been fixed, and there are no glaring issues regarding the article's quality. Good for ITN/RD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 17:31, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support - Major figure in Malaysian politics and perhaps its worst kleptocrat since the 1970s. gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 00:35, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PenangLion: notability is not treated as a factor in RD nominations, votes should be instead based on the article quality alone. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:55, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the reminder. Despite this, the article is sufficient for a pass judging by article quality itself. gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 07:56, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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RD: Ameen Sayani[edit]

Article: Ameen Sayani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Host of Binaca Geetmala Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oppose mostly unsourced. JM (talk) 03:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Ihar Lednik[edit]

Article: Ihar Lednik (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Reported worldwide, death of a prominent Belarusian opposition figure and political prisoner. I have just created this article, help on expanding would be much appreciated; nominating in order to draw attention to it. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:36, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Wait - as nominator stated, the article was created very recently, and is short, sparsely referenced and orphaned. Would support if these issues get fixed quickly enough. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 12:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Closed) Chrysler Halcyon[edit]

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Article: Chrysler Halcyon (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Was in the news; example: CNBC (Post)
News source(s): CNBC
Credits:

Article updated
⚒️★MinecraftPlayer★321⚒️ Let's Chat! 22:58, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I stand corrected, there's an article. Good faith nom, but I still *Oppose MyriadSims (talk) 23:02, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Good faith nom, but no blurb has been specified. If it was something along the lines of the title of the provided source, I would oppose on notability. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 23:16, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Efeso Collins[edit]

Article: Efeso Collins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3] [4]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sitting MP for the Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand, first sitting MP to die in 11 years. -- David Palmer aka cloventt (talk) 22:51, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support : This is a tragedy and is significant, given his longstanding contributions to Auckland as a world city, as also for the reason stated above. At the very least, he should get a "recent death" mention. 222.152.26.228 (talk) 00:31, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Preemptive oppose blurb since he's nowhere near the level of Pinera, the last guy to get a blurb and the death doesn't appear to be notable as an event in itself. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 00:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support as a "recent death" - Collins was an extremely prominent Samoan New Zealander, and alongside Kris Faafoi one of the most high profile Tokelauan people in politics (outside of the Tokelauan government itself). --Prosperosity (talk) 06:47, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment - friendly reminder that notability/relevancy isn't treated as a factor in RD nominations, and that !votes should be instead based on the article quality itself. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 08:14, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, it's a good quality article, with lots about his life, mentoring, charity work, the impact he had on society (he played a role in getting Police Ten 7 cancelled), the evolution of his political beliefs, his run for the mayoralty (which sparked a serious debate on the terrible turnout rate in NZ local elections), and the rest of his 25-year political career. It also has a high quality and handsome photo of him, beautiful video of him being celebrated by Sāmoan dancers after giving his maiden speech. I would definitely Support - this is a tragedy for Auckland as a city, and the nation is in mourning. 222.152.26.228 (talk) 09:07, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also, if the bloke who was in Strictly Come Dancing or the guy from Slap Shot gets mentioned instead of Efeso, it would be in very poor taste. 222.152.26.228 (talk) 09:09, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This is not the place to dismiss other RD nominations. As the nomination template states, every recently deceased person, animal or organism with a Wiki article is relevant enough to be posted, regardless of what they were known for. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 10:18, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support. Ready. Hyperbolick (talk) 19:51, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Posted Stephen 22:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support : cloventt This is a tragedy and is significant, given his longstanding contributions to Auckland as a world city, as also for the reason stated above. At the very least, he should get a "recent death" mention. Article is well sourced and in order. 7&6=thirteen () 19:02, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I wonder why you ping somebody in each reply. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Robin Windsor[edit]

Article: Robin Windsor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, BBC News, The Times obituary
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

2A02:C7C:9241:7B00:8C48:47B6:6279:1761 (talk) 19:14, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Still a small amount of unsourced material, unfortunately. Does every entry in the Strictly tables have to be sourced? Also there seems to still be some disagreement over his date of death, which does not seem to have been published anywhere. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Date of death now confirmed as 20 February (see The Times obituary above). Martinevans123 (talk) 11:48, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment Multiple unreferenced paragraphs and sections Stephen 05:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Preemptive oppose, but only on the grounds that I strongly feel that Efeso Collins is more worthy of being mentioned. New Zealand is in mourning for him, and by all accounts, the United Kingdom isn't in mourning for Robin Windsor. I'm not dissing him - he seemed like a great guy and his charity work makes him admirable. 222.152.26.228 (talk) 09:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Not sure we can do that? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:34, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    You do realise we can post both of these, right? We don't have to post these one at a time. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 10:21, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Weak oppose Needs citation cleanup, I added "citation needed" tags, likely can use existing sources to be put in the right places. Many references are are from the official website rather than an independent source and furthermore a lot of them are bare url's. Otherwise good article. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:51, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Sources now added. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    That was 28 hours ago. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:35, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I believe you may wanna WP:ping @Abcmaxx in situations like these. (done it for ya) Aaron Liu (talk) 23:27, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Can we remove/replace the 2 dead links from the article? Still some bare url's in referencing but I will weak support now. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:32, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Done. I saw one bare url, are there more? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:00, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Am I now supposed to WP:ping @Abcmaxx? Not sure how this works any more. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:51, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    If one doesn't respond for a long time, it might be useful to ping. It's not a requirement and simply drags someone's attention. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:55, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Well, I did the dead links over 13 hours ago. I'm not sure I know what "a long time " is around here. Thanks anyway. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:26, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    well in that case: change to support Abcmaxx (talk) 03:13, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support The article is fully sourced and much improved. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:16, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I asked about sources for the results tables 4 days ago, but I see that 65.94.213.53 has now kindly peppered the tables with {cn} tags. So perhaps it's time to forget about this for RD. It'll fall of this page in two days anyway. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:46, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Posted Stephen 00:56, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Paul D'Amato[edit]

Article: Paul D'Amato (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Jensen, Tim (February 20, 2024). "Actor Paul D'Amato Dies; Avid Charity Supporter Throughout Connecticut". Enfield, CT Patch.
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Actor with a modest repertoire, but outsized influence due to his scene-stealing appearance in Slap Shot resulting in him becoming the model for the comic book appearance of the character, Wolverine. BD2412 T 15:27, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose Article still needs work in terms of tone. Moncoposig (talk) 16:11, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • @Moncoposig: That is a rather vague criticism, and one that I have not seen in ITN before. Every statement in the article is cited. Can you provide an example of something in the article that "needs work in terms of tone"? BD2412 T 16:19, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Note: The article has been substantially reworked. I believe this !vote can be disregarded as obsolete. BD2412 T 22:53, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Article is fully sourced, and after reading through it, I could not find any statements I found to be in a questionable tone. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 16:53, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support For BD2412, tone quality is quite an issue for articles that are being nominated for ITN, but this article has no tone issues that I can find. Good referencing and good length. Looks fine to me. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 22:35, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Andreas Brehme[edit]

Article: Andreas Brehme (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Successful footballer, best known as the scorer of the goal that won West Germany the 1990 World Cup Abcmaxx (talk) 17:51, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

References[edit]

Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the inline URL syntax [http://example.com] rather than using <ref></ref> tags, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process.

For the times when <ref></ref> tags are being used, here are their contents:

  1. ^ "Micheline Presle, French movie star of 'Devil in the Flesh,' dies at 101". Washington Post. February 22, 2024. The 1947 drama about wartime adultery became an international sensation and brought her a Hollywood contract {{cite news}}: |first1= missing |last1= (help); Unknown parameter |lasy1= ignored (help)